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And you hit on the problem- we want to live and let live. They cannot stand living with people who will neither control or be controlled.

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Yes, engineer and writer Robert A. Heinlein said it best:

"The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire".

But it gets even more infuriating when they project their controller proclivities on us, the Pro-freedom right.

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And too few of us understood the implications decades ago. Many are waking up, but many others either have no direction or have been programmed to be meek- even against oppression.

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Yes. We are two vast tribes, with completely opposite values, principles, ethics, and morals.

One side loves America. The other side hates it. One side upholds family, truth, honor, tradition, God... the other side rages against those.

One of the following is inevitable. Soon.

1) Global war (which may reunite us for a time).

2) Secession (peaceful nat'l divorce).

3) Secession (civil war).

4) Draconian oppression by the govt (all out rebellion).

5) Christ returns.

6) Aliens fully come out in the public eye.

In the near future, I'm betting on 1 & 3, or 1 & 4.

Though I hope for 2 & 5.

6 would be cool, too... as long as they don't come to enslave and eradicate.

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I would tend to agree except that the other side doesn’t represent as many as they claim. The Hidden tribes poll a few years ago only showed the ‘committed’ activists at only 8% of the population, with a few more percentage that go along, so maybe they’re up to 30% or so…

The rest of us are true liberals – people who believe in liberty and everyone on the Pro-freedom right.

It just occurred to me why they need to work on importing so many new voters.

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That is so true. The media, social and mainstream, would have people believe that the radical left is the majority opinion and it is not. It wasn’t in historical autocratic countries. Too few people want to get involved, or pay attention when their rights are being stolen by those longing to control others.

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The apocryphal quote often attributed George Washington has the right of it "Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force...". All government control boils down to three choices. "Comply, Prison, or Die". What we see today was spelled out by Frederic Bastiat in "The Law“, published in 1849.

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it... But how is this legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply. See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them and gives it to other persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime.”

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